Comments on: SLCC Hates Musicians

By: Matthew Ebel

Matthew Ebel — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:49:04 +0000

@Tamara- I’ll do so in the future, thanks.

By: Bryce Moore

Bryce Moore — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:46:42 +0000

The truth has finally come out and I’m for one am glad to see it. The whole “no recording our sessions” rule wasn’t really about “unions” or other such nonsense, it was about money, and so is the entire “performance rights are ours until the sun burns out” business on the musicians contract.

I’ve said it many times before — introduce money into any social network or semi-organized community and things will go straight to hell — every… single.. time. There are just too many people who are more concerned for black numbers than they are for actual community building.

Bravo for once again sticking your neck out here and speaking your mind.

By: Tamara Kirshner

Tamara Kirshner — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:29:22 +0000

Matthew:

If you are going to post such a response to my comment, please leave the comment there for people to see what you’re talking about. Otherwise, please email me to respond if you’re going to delete my comment.

By: C.C.

C.C. — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:20:33 +0000

It sucks that this whole SLCC event seems to be messing up at every corner. I’m currently scheduled to be a speaker at it and I know the first thing I’m going to say as I get on stage is “everyone in this room can photo and record this whole session” which is technically against the rules set forth.

I’ve been to conferences both bigger and smaller then this one and I’ve never seen rules as I’m seeing with this one and I just don’t understand it.

I know I’ve read that they are working on changing things but who knows. I understand not being able to pay musicians due to budgets, but making them pay to get in to the conference as well? That I don’t understand. At a minimum they should get a free pass to attend the conference for their time and trouble.

This is certainly going to get interesting….

By: Michelle Wolverton / chel pixie

Michelle Wolverton / chel pixie — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:13:08 +0000

I don’t generally make I agree posts but April has hit the nail on the head. No ego in the blog post, just a warning to the community that there is something that isn’t comfortable going on for the musicians.

It’s okay for people to stand up and make statements and ask questions about what they are being asked to do. Musicians that have to make the decision to attend and play SLCC are having a discussion and that is acceptable in any community.

By: Matthew Ebel

Matthew Ebel — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:03:37 +0000

@Tamara- Next time try posting without the personal attacks, thanks.

@April- Actually, part (b) in your comment never really crossed my mind. The entire SLCC event stinks enough like BurnLounge and certain podcasting contracts that I feel it’s my duty to warn people about it. I’m playing another convention later this year that is not paying me, not covering transportation, and not covering hotel… but they are working to make sure details are ironed out BEFORE I book my travel plans. And they’re not asking me to sign some half-assed one-sided contract.

@Lynette- People are indeed talking to SLCC, but this blog ain’t the place to find that kind of news. As I hear about it I’ll toss something up here. I don’t doubt that the attendees at an event like this will be delightful (dare I say an actual community?). I just hope those attendees know what kind of organization their dollars are supporting.

By: Lynette Radio

Lynette Radio — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:20:50 +0000

Has anyone considered actually talking to the people that are organizing SLCC rather than reading quotes in blogs and partial excerpts from a contract? And just because some people don’t like the contract, doesn’t mean it’s a bad get-together. I for one am totally looking forward to SLCC and could care less if they have music, ‘tracts’, or a party. I just want to go meet a bunch of SL friends face to face.

Anyway, how would the musicians write the contract?

By: April Torbush

April Torbush — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:43:01 +0000

I think you might have missed the point of the post [ME Edit: the comment she's referring to was deleted due to personally insulting content]. I don’t think he is in anyway saying ‘don’t come to this event because I won’t be there.’ I think he’s attempting to a) alert people to some of the behind the scenes shennanigans that might not otherwise be seen; b) further explain to his fans, who want him there, why he won’t be attending; and c) appeal to the public’s moral compass by saying ‘don’t support an event/company that seems to be screwing over decent hardworking people for the sole purpose of making a buck….kinda like people posting blogs about companies who use child labor. Anyway that’s the message I glean from the post….I don’t see any ego in it.