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Okay, taking a break from music posting right now since a lot of my friends and contacts have been all over this oovoo thing. In a nutshell, oovoo is yet another IM service, this time with 6-way video chatting.

Since these kind of reviews are best written in bullet points, I’ll open up my box of ammo and oblige.

  • Good: oovoo, as advertised, does indeed facilitate 6-way video conferencing.

  • Good: oovoo seems to be Johnny-on-the-spot with updates when they know something’s screwed. The first oovoo chat couldn’t even support 1-to-1 conversation, let alone 6. And I was on a fiber-optic connection with 5Mbit download. The very next day a new client version appeared and, apparently, solved most of the connectivity issues.

  • Bad: The client sucks. I mean sucks like Battlefield Earth. First of all, it appears to be written in Java, which means it may as well be running on an old PowerPC in Windows using VirtualPC (read: NOT ideal for high-performance video/audio streaming). The client takes forever to load, the interface is totally un-Mac-like and doesn’t respond to the usual interface cues, like two-finger trackpad scrolling. When it does work, the audio and video are terribly out of sync, even for 1-to-1 conversations. I know the Mac version is still in Beta phase, but that means…

  • Worse: The Mac version is still in Beta phase. Folks, this isn’t 1993 anymore. When you release a video-chat client and treat a huge swath of people with cameras built into their hardware like they’re an afterthought, you’re not making any friends. In fact, you send a clear message to guys like me that you’re never going to support Macs the way you support Windows, and here’s where this is a marketing blunder:

    1. You’re eventually going to want to monetize this thing. Selling special services, perhaps? Like Skype does? Why the heck would a Mac user spend money on a company when they’re not sure they’re ever going to get real support?
    2. When you have the audacity to actually release feature-comparable full versions simultaneously to PC’s and Macs, Mac people notice. When Mac people find a new service or company whose support is 100% equal, they latch onto it and tell the world.
    3. This may just be my perception, but the move seems to me to be tacit admission that oovoo knows it has nothing to offer that iChat doesn’t already excel at, other than bringing Windows users to the party.


  • Bad: One more little annoyance about the ported Mac test version… Windows sufferers may be used to their software assuming you want it to load right at startup… but when I logged in and had to wait for a Java app to load up that I didn’t ask for, I got pretty pissed off at oovoo right there.

  • oovoo Blunder #1Bad: Finally, the dumbest PR move I’ve seen yet just happened tonight. I got this email (click the image to see the full version). They’re announcing new features! Yay! Oh, wait, They’re Windows-only features. I’m assuming oovoo was just too shortsighted to keep their email lists separated into Mac and PC users, but it’s tantamount to thumbing one’s nose at Mac users and saying “look what you CAN’T do.”

So my prediction is simple: Mac users will never see the same kind of support that PC users will. oovoo, like ICQ and Yahoo!, will eventually get most features ported over, but it’ll be three versions behind. That kind of hand-me-down technology just isn’t worth my time.

Especially since oovoo has yet to offer anything that Skype and iChat don’t already cover. They don’t require loading up a slow, awkward virtual machine, either. Sorry, oovoo, you’re about to give me back my hard drive space.

Frozen Pea Fund LogoUpdate: I forgot to mention… Very, Very Good: The whole My oovoo Day promotion has raised a whole bunch of money for The Frozen Pea Fund, which is a hell of a good way to start. This kind of outreach is why I joined a few oovoo conversations in the first place.

Full Disclosure: Yeah, oovoo is one of crayon’s clients, and crayon is one of my clients. To be honest, I think the marketing behind My oovoo Day was brilliant. And it accomplished exactly what it was supposed to… I used it, and I talked about it. It ain’t crayon’s fault that oovoo doesn’t have a finished product yet.


  • You guys should just use Mega Meeting. It is based off of flash, and is much easier to use. Try it, i dare you!
  • OOVOO plans to make money however apple got litle to gain ,no advertising and they are selling an OS.
  • Despite ooVoo's fast-growing userbase, as it currently stands there are no plans to introduce a subscription fee in the future.
  • Matthew,

    Don't you think you're blowing this whole Mac vs PC thing a bit out of proportion?

    fwiw, there were plenty of Mac users who participated in the program and were able to experience a satisfactory (if not better) connection.

    Yes, I know this is not about the program itself (and I appreciate your kind words), however I think it's important to recognize the fact that *had* ooVoo run this program without a Mac component, you (and others) would have dumped even harder on them in the process.

    I'm not defending them or even being defensive. I'm just calling your attention to the fact they did their best to accommodate an important user base, even though their Mac client is still being worked on.

    ...and before you mention it, yes I know that they shouldn't release anything until it's ready for prime time....but that's why they call it an alpha and that's why it was only available for www.myoovooday.com

    In any event, I'm glad you gave it a try. I'm glad your experience got better over time. The folks over at ooVoo will continue listening to all suggestions (Mac and PC alike :)).

    Hopefully you'll stick around to chat accordingly. I'm not using Skype anymore so if you want to talk to me, you're going to have to use ooVoo :)

    PS If you use iChat, can you use it to talk to people on PC's? If not, perhaps I should blog about it :)
  • Scott-

    Dang it, and here I go forgetting things again... THANK you for commenting and being on the ball with a response. I forgot to mention that I appreciate your candor and (*gasp* dare I say it) conversational outreach. :)
  • Scott-

    Ah, I was wondering when one of my crayon friends would find this and smack me around a little. :)

    I understand that the Mac version "hasn't officially been released yet". That's about 80% of my problem with oovoo already. And believe me, as a longtime Mac user I've heard plenty of "committed to getting PC and Mac versions into parallel development tracks" statements.

    Here's the problem: oovoo has gone very, very public with a very, very unequal (read: unfinished) product. All the competitive market forces in the world do not change a user's first impression, and now instead of "impress me" they must play a game of "convince me to come back."

    The latter is a lot harder to win. They're going to have to go above and beyond mere parity at this point to convince Mac users that they really are a priority.
  • Hey Matthew,

    You have some very valid concerns here and I'm going to be sure that ooVoo reads your post, as they're actively trying to incorporate as many suggestions into their product development as is reasonable.

    A couple of things:
    1) The Mac version hasn't been officially released yet. The version that we debuted so Mac users could participate in My ooVoo Day With was *alpha* not beta. So yes, there is still some bugginess that's being worked out, and ooVoo is actively collecting feedback from users to help improve the experience.

    2) I know you're loathe to believe this, but ooVoo is committed to getting the PC and Mac versions into parallel development tracks. They've publicly stated that they'd like to do this within the year. As far as the out-the-door release, they were dealing with lots of different issues, such as competitive market forces and development hurdles, to name a couple. They're acutely aware of how important the Mac user base is in terms of adoption and evangelism and are working hard to get up to speed.

    3) The Windows-only email was an unfortunate mistake. Because Mac hasn't been publicly released yet, this was an oversight. ooVoo is looking into how it happened and is going to do their best to keep it from happening again.

    Thanks for your frank assessment.

    Full disclosure: I work for crayon, and we are ooVoo's strategic marketing advisory partner.
  • Tell us how you really feel Matthew :)

    I have to agree with you. When I first tested the client it was on a PC and it was pretty revolutionary to be able to video chat with so many people. Granted I don't need the six people that often but it was much better then the one I can do on Skype.

    Since getting a mac though iChat does what I need and allows me to connect with people and share my screen with them as well which has come in handy more then once.

    I didn't even get the new features e-mail, but I sure have gotten enough e-mails for people asking to connect. I've got to find out where to turn that off.

    And I'll second Chris' love for SuperDuper.
  • Funny, I just uninstalled it as well. Except for the Mac mini and the Apple TV, every Mac ships with a video camera. Talk about a market made for your product that you missed the boat on.

    iChat and Skype still rule the roost for me as a Mac user. I've uninstalled ooVoo and don't plan on going back any time soon.

    If there's one application for the Mac I can recommend with raves, it's SuperDuper. My MacBook Pro blew up a fan, and in 60 minutes I had cloned the entire machine to another MacBook, booted it, and was back at work. SuperDuper saved my ass.
  • Thanks a ton for this review, Matt!

    I never got the chance to join an ooVoo session because of timezone differences, and now I doubt I'll bother checking out the service anymore.

    I hate apps deciding they'll load on startup. I'm not sure why I put up with Snapz Pro X doing that (I can't seem to find an option to turn that off).

    Again, thanks. (Enjoy your Windows users, ooovvooooooo)
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